This is a draft PR for the Solid26 launch page#953
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| <p><a href="/about">Solid</a> is an open standard created by Sir Tim Berners-Lee that lets people store their personal data in an online space they manage — called a Pod — and decide exactly which services, applications and AI agents can access it.</p> | ||
| <p>Solid26 is the first bundled release of the Solid specification, giving developers and organisations a stable foundation to build a new generation of applications that put people back in control of their data.</p> | ||
| <p>The video below walks through the kinds of applications that can be built with Solid26 — from creating and managing your own Pod, to health tracking, fitness, and AI. If you're a developer or technologist ready to start building, head to the <a href="/solid26-for-developers">developers page</a> to get started. If you want to help shape where Solid goes next, read on.</p> |
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Can we verify that such applications can actually be build with Soild26?
Is this video made with deployed running code or mockups in a design tool?
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I think you/we know the answer to that ;)
My interpretation of all this is that it is a marketing attempt to attract people to Solid, not based on what it offers today, but on what it can be. It doesn't matter whether that's solid26 or solid99. What is offered by Solid here is vague besides fitting it under the big banner of... waves at everything. It is intended to be a promise of work to grow the ecosystem rather than something concrete.
The presentation with Figma is based on a simulated mockup (as part of academic research), not a fully functional system by any stretch of the imagination.
Painting this type of picture will arguably have the opposite effect for the project, but then again, who are we to question the process ;)
The "community", wherever it starts or ends, or its membership, can't even agree on the usefulness of honest efforts with sufficient evidence (like profiles), taking recent activities as an example, or make a minor effort towards promoting works, or have contributors write down a simple sentence in good faith about one particular access control mechanism that is recommended by the community and another no longer, without getting so tangled and confused about the task. And yet, somehow, the Solid project (pointing at a magical system as demonstrated in the marketing material) not only needs substantive consensus from this and other web communities, but development and adoption of work from many other areas (some of the actually hard parts are non-technical), let alone the enormous amounts of funding that would need to materialise from thin air for the implementations, in what is arguably an effort spanning multiple years, even decades, with no guarantee of success, and is somehow possible just around the corner. 😹
Grand visions are easy. This one is still worth the effort. The work just needs to rise to meet it.
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| description: "Solid26 gives you a stable, clearly defined set of specifications to build against — so you can start developing with confidence." | ||
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| title: "Solid26" |
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| title: "Solid 26" | ||
| description: "Solid 26 is the first annual release of the Solid specification, giving developers and organisations the tools to build a new generation of applications and AI services in which individuals, rather than platforms, control their data." |
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| description: "Solid 26 is the first annual release of the Solid specification, giving developers and organisations the tools to build a new generation of applications and AI services in which individuals, rather than platforms, control their data." | |
| description: "Solid26 is the first annual release of the Solid specification, giving developers and organisations the tools to build a new generation of applications and AI services in which individuals, rather than platforms, control their data." |
| title: "Solid 26" | ||
| description: "Solid 26 is the first annual release of the Solid specification, giving developers and organisations the tools to build a new generation of applications and AI services in which individuals, rather than platforms, control their data." | ||
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| <p>Solid26 is the first bundled release of the Solid specification, giving developers and organisations a stable foundation to build a new generation of applications that put people back in control of their data.</p> | ||
| <p>The video below walks through the kinds of applications that can be built with Solid26 — from creating and managing your own Pod, to health tracking, fitness, and AI. If you're a developer or technologist ready to start building, head to the <a href="/solid26-for-developers">developers page</a> to get started. If you want to help shape where Solid goes next, read on.</p> | ||
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| <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/sXwZXWMuymM?rel=0&modestbranding=1" title="See what you can build with Solid 26" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen style="position:absolute; top:0; left:0; width:100%; height:100%;"></iframe> |
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| <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/sXwZXWMuymM?rel=0&modestbranding=1" title="See what you can build with Solid 26" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen style="position:absolute; top:0; left:0; width:100%; height:100%;"></iframe> | |
| <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/sXwZXWMuymM?rel=0&modestbranding=1" title="See what you can build with Solid26" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen style="position:absolute; top:0; left:0; width:100%; height:100%;"></iframe> |
| <p>If you would like to participate in these exercises, please reach out to Roberto S.K Breitman (ODI Solid Community Manager) with a short message detailing your field of expertise, and your experience within that field so he can help you find the appropriate feedback group.</p> | ||
| <p>Roberto can be reached at <a href="mailto:Roberto.Brietman@theodi.org">Roberto.Brietman@theodi.org</a></p> |
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| <p>If you would like to participate in these exercises, please reach out to Roberto S.K Breitman (ODI Solid Community Manager) with a short message detailing your field of expertise, and your experience within that field so he can help you find the appropriate feedback group.</p> | |
| <p>Roberto can be reached at <a href="mailto:Roberto.Brietman@theodi.org">Roberto.Brietman@theodi.org</a></p> |
This is what the "Ready to Join?" section below is for.
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| <p>Fill out the form below, or email <a href="mailto:solid@theodi.org">solid@theodi.org</a> with your area of expertise and a line about your background. We'll match you to the right group and get you started.</p> |
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This doesn't need to be a separate section. It can just be another paragraph with "Ready to join?" in bold.
On that note ... the bolding on this page is not very easy to see. Could you see you can improve the styles a little to resolve that?
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| <h2 id="implementors_guide" property="name">The Solid26 Implementors Guide</h2> |
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The id identifies the whole section, not particularly the heading.
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| <h2 id="implementors_guide" property="name">The Solid26 Implementors Guide</h2> | |
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| <h2 property="name">The Solid26 Implementors Guide</h2> |
Same goes for the other ids in this PR that are on the heading instead of the section.
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| <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/sXwZXWMuymM?rel=0&modestbranding=1" title="See what you can build with Solid 26" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen style="position:absolute; top:0; left:0; width:100%; height:100%;"></iframe> | ||
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All these styles should move to an external stylesheet.
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| <h2 id="get_involved" property="name"><strong>Get Involved!</strong></h2> |
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strong inside h2 is redundant and semantically off. Screen readers may unnecessarily announce the emphasis separately. The bold appearance is already part of h2 in browser that has a default stylesheet, and anything additional should be handled in the CSS in any case.
| <h2 id="get_involved" property="name"><strong>Get Involved!</strong></h2> | |
| <h2 id="get_involved" property="name">Get Involved!</h2> |
| <p>Fill out the form below, or email <a href="mailto:solid@theodi.org">solid@theodi.org</a> with your area of expertise and a line about your background. We'll match you to the right group and get you started.</p> | ||
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Offering a Google Form as a contact method may not be the most convincing way to show that Solid is ready.
There are also a number of accessibility issues with this iframe.
| <div datatype="rdf:HTML" property="description"> | ||
| <p><a href="/about">Solid</a> is an open standard created by Sir Tim Berners-Lee that lets people store their personal data in an online space they manage — called a Pod — and decide exactly which services, applications and AI agents can access it.</p> | ||
| <p>Solid26 is the first bundled release of the Solid specification, giving developers and organisations a stable foundation to build a new generation of applications that put people back in control of their data.</p> | ||
| <p>The video below walks through the kinds of applications that can be built with Solid26 — from creating and managing your own Pod, to health tracking, fitness, and AI. If you're a developer or technologist ready to start building, head to the <a href="/solid26-for-developers">developers page</a> to get started. If you want to help shape where Solid goes next, read on.</p> |
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I think you/we know the answer to that ;)
My interpretation of all this is that it is a marketing attempt to attract people to Solid, not based on what it offers today, but on what it can be. It doesn't matter whether that's solid26 or solid99. What is offered by Solid here is vague besides fitting it under the big banner of... waves at everything. It is intended to be a promise of work to grow the ecosystem rather than something concrete.
The presentation with Figma is based on a simulated mockup (as part of academic research), not a fully functional system by any stretch of the imagination.
Painting this type of picture will arguably have the opposite effect for the project, but then again, who are we to question the process ;)
The "community", wherever it starts or ends, or its membership, can't even agree on the usefulness of honest efforts with sufficient evidence (like profiles), taking recent activities as an example, or make a minor effort towards promoting works, or have contributors write down a simple sentence in good faith about one particular access control mechanism that is recommended by the community and another no longer, without getting so tangled and confused about the task. And yet, somehow, the Solid project (pointing at a magical system as demonstrated in the marketing material) not only needs substantive consensus from this and other web communities, but development and adoption of work from many other areas (some of the actually hard parts are non-technical), let alone the enormous amounts of funding that would need to materialise from thin air for the implementations, in what is arguably an effort spanning multiple years, even decades, with no guarantee of success, and is somehow possible just around the corner. 😹
Grand visions are easy. This one is still worth the effort. The work just needs to rise to meet it.
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As discussed -- having the form built-in to the page and submitting via an API would be preferred.
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The plan is to merge the PR on April 30th, coinciding with the planned release of Solid26.