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| 1 | +--- |
| 2 | +title: YS on the Go |
| 3 | +date: 2025-07-25 |
| 4 | +draft: false |
| 5 | +authors: [ingydotnet] |
| 6 | +categories: [Summer-of-YS] |
| 7 | +edit: blog/2025-07-25.md |
| 8 | +comments: true |
| 9 | +--- |
| 10 | + |
| 11 | +[Yesterday](2025-07-24.md#whats-the-problem-with-graalvm) I hinted at the idea |
| 12 | +of YS hosted on Go. |
| 13 | + |
| 14 | +This doesn't mean that YS would be rewritten in Go or that it wouldn't compile |
| 15 | +to Clojure. |
| 16 | +The Lisp is still essential to YS. |
| 17 | + |
| 18 | +Where I was going was the possibility of creating a Clojure hosted on Go, which |
| 19 | +I've been thinking about for a while. |
| 20 | + |
| 21 | +Go is the backbone of technologies like Kubernetes, where YS wants to provide |
| 22 | +a more powerful YAML experience. |
| 23 | + |
| 24 | +As I was getting ready for bed, the word "Glojure" popped into my head. |
| 25 | + |
| 26 | +What a perfect name for a Go hosted Clojure! |
| 27 | + |
| 28 | + |
| 29 | +<!-- more --> |
| 30 | + |
| 31 | + |
| 32 | +## Glojure |
| 33 | + |
| 34 | +I had to see if someone had already thought of this. |
| 35 | + |
| 36 | +A quick search revealed that there were actually 2 projects on GitHub called |
| 37 | +Glojure! |
| 38 | + |
| 39 | +[One of them](https://github.com/glojurelang/glojure) looked quite promising, so |
| 40 | +I decided to take a look at it after I had slept. |
| 41 | + |
| 42 | +This morning I was able to get a **YS program running on Glojure**! |
| 43 | + |
| 44 | +Let's take a look at it in action, and then I'll explain how it works (and also |
| 45 | +how it doesn't). |
| 46 | + |
| 47 | +The program is a YS implementation of the famous [fizzbuzz]( |
| 48 | +https://rosettacode.org/wiki/FizzBuzz#YAMLScript) algorithm. |
| 49 | + |
| 50 | +In this example we'll just print the first 16 numbers instead of the normal 100. |
| 51 | + |
| 52 | +```bash |
| 53 | +$ ys -ce ' |
| 54 | +say =: println |
| 55 | +defn rng(a b): range(a b:inc) |
| 56 | +defn or?(a b): a:empty?.if(b a) |
| 57 | +
|
| 58 | +doseq x (1 .. 16): !:say |
| 59 | + or?: |
| 60 | + str: |
| 61 | + zero?(x % 3).when("Fizz") |
| 62 | + zero?(x % 5).when("Buzz") |
| 63 | + =>: x |
| 64 | +' | glj |
| 65 | +#'user/say |
| 66 | +#'user/rng |
| 67 | +#'user/or? |
| 68 | +1 |
| 69 | +2 |
| 70 | +Fizz |
| 71 | +4 |
| 72 | +Buzz |
| 73 | +Fizz |
| 74 | +7 |
| 75 | +8 |
| 76 | +Fizz |
| 77 | +Buzz |
| 78 | +11 |
| 79 | +Fizz |
| 80 | +13 |
| 81 | +14 |
| 82 | +FizzBuzz |
| 83 | +16 |
| 84 | +nil |
| 85 | +``` |
| 86 | + |
| 87 | +It works! |
| 88 | + |
| 89 | +Right? |
| 90 | + |
| 91 | + |
| 92 | +## Glojure Basics |
| 93 | + |
| 94 | +If you have a recent version of Go installed, `glj` (the Glojure binary) is |
| 95 | +easy to install and run: |
| 96 | + |
| 97 | +```bash |
| 98 | +$ go install github.com/glojurelang/glojure/cmd/glj@latest |
| 99 | +$ echo '(println "Hello, World!")' | glj |
| 100 | +Hello, World! |
| 101 | +nil |
| 102 | +``` |
| 103 | + |
| 104 | +The `nil` was unexpected in this context. |
| 105 | +The Clojure command `clj` does this: |
| 106 | + |
| 107 | +```bash |
| 108 | +$ clj -M -e '(println "Hello, World!")' |
| 109 | +Hello, World! |
| 110 | +``` |
| 111 | + |
| 112 | +But those are not quite the same. |
| 113 | +Glojure doesn't support the `-e` flag currently. |
| 114 | + |
| 115 | +I feel like `glj` is starting a REPL session, and then evaluating the code. |
| 116 | +In that case, printing `nil` is expected. |
| 117 | + |
| 118 | +I'm not fully up to speed on how Glojure works, but it doesn't matter for what |
| 119 | +I'm showing you today. |
| 120 | + |
| 121 | +A more fair comparison would be: |
| 122 | + |
| 123 | +```bash |
| 124 | +$ glj <<<'(println "Hello, World!")' |
| 125 | +Hello, World! |
| 126 | +nil |
| 127 | +$ clj <<<'(println "Hello, World!")' |
| 128 | +Clojure 1.12.1 |
| 129 | +user=> Hello, World! |
| 130 | +nil |
| 131 | +user=> |
| 132 | +$ |
| 133 | +``` |
| 134 | + |
| 135 | +So yep, they are both starting a REPL session, evaluating the code (which prints |
| 136 | +`Hello, World!` and returns `nil` (which the REPL correctly shows)), and then |
| 137 | +exiting. |
| 138 | + |
| 139 | + |
| 140 | +## How YS Works with Glojure |
| 141 | + |
| 142 | +With normal YS you'd do this: |
| 143 | + |
| 144 | +```bash |
| 145 | +$ ys -e ' |
| 146 | +each x (1 .. 16): !:say |
| 147 | + or?: |
| 148 | + str: |
| 149 | + zero?(x % 3).when("Fizz") |
| 150 | + zero?(x % 5).when("Buzz") |
| 151 | + =>: x |
| 152 | +' |
| 153 | +1 |
| 154 | +2 |
| 155 | +Fizz |
| 156 | +4 |
| 157 | +Buzz |
| 158 | +Fizz |
| 159 | +7 |
| 160 | +8 |
| 161 | +Fizz |
| 162 | +Buzz |
| 163 | +11 |
| 164 | +Fizz |
| 165 | +13 |
| 166 | +14 |
| 167 | +FizzBuzz |
| 168 | +16 |
| 169 | +``` |
| 170 | + |
| 171 | +The `ys -c` flag compiles the YS code to Clojure, so let's pipe it to `glj`: |
| 172 | + |
| 173 | +```bash |
| 174 | +$ ys -c -e ' |
| 175 | +each x (1 .. 16): !:say |
| 176 | + or?: |
| 177 | + str: |
| 178 | + zero?(x % 3).when("Fizz") |
| 179 | + zero?(x % 5).when("Buzz") |
| 180 | + =>: x |
| 181 | +' | glj |
| 182 | +unable to resolve symbol: each |
| 183 | +``` |
| 184 | + |
| 185 | +Well, Clojure (thus Glojure) doesn't have a `each` function. |
| 186 | +True. |
| 187 | +`each` is part of the `ys::std` library. |
| 188 | + |
| 189 | +It's really just an alternate form for `doseq`. |
| 190 | +Let's try it with `doseq`: |
| 191 | + |
| 192 | +```bash |
| 193 | +$ ys -c -e ' |
| 194 | +doseq x (1 .. 16): !:say |
| 195 | + or?: |
| 196 | + str: |
| 197 | + zero?(x % 3).when("Fizz") |
| 198 | + zero?(x % 5).when("Buzz") |
| 199 | + =>: x |
| 200 | +' | glj |
| 201 | +unable to resolve symbol: rng |
| 202 | +``` |
| 203 | + |
| 204 | +Hmmm, `rng` isn't even used. |
| 205 | + |
| 206 | +It's time to look at the Clojure code that `ys -c` generates: |
| 207 | + |
| 208 | +```bash |
| 209 | +$ ys -c -e ' |
| 210 | +doseq x (1 .. 16): !:say |
| 211 | + or?: |
| 212 | + str: |
| 213 | + zero?(x % 3).when("Fizz") |
| 214 | + zero?(x % 5).when("Buzz") |
| 215 | + =>: x |
| 216 | +' |
| 217 | +(doseq |
| 218 | + [x (rng 1 16)] |
| 219 | + (say |
| 220 | + (or? |
| 221 | + (str |
| 222 | + (when (zero? (rem x 3)) "Fizz") |
| 223 | + (when (zero? (rem x 5)) "Buzz")) |
| 224 | + x))) |
| 225 | +``` |
| 226 | + |
| 227 | +OK! There's `rng`. It looks like `..` compiles to `rng`. |
| 228 | + |
| 229 | +!!! note |
| 230 | + The `ys::std/rng` is an alternate form for the standard Clojure `range` |
| 231 | + function. |
| 232 | + It includes the upper bound, which is often what you want. |
| 233 | + |
| 234 | +There's also `or?` and `say`. |
| 235 | +Those aren't in Clojure/Glojure either. |
| 236 | + |
| 237 | +It looks like we need a way to include the `ys::std` library in the Glojure |
| 238 | +runtime environment. |
| 239 | + |
| 240 | +Well that's gonna take some thought and effort. |
| 241 | + |
| 242 | +But we only need 4 missing functions for this example: `each`, `rng`, `or?` |
| 243 | +and `say`. |
| 244 | + |
| 245 | +Let's see if we can just define them quickly in our YS 1-liner: |
| 246 | + |
| 247 | +```bash |
| 248 | +$ ys -ce ' |
| 249 | +each =: doseq |
| 250 | +defn rng(a b): range(a b:inc) |
| 251 | +defn or?(a b): a:empty?.if(b a) |
| 252 | +say =: println |
| 253 | +
|
| 254 | +each x (1 .. 16): !:say |
| 255 | + or?: |
| 256 | + str: |
| 257 | + zero?(x % 3).when("Fizz") |
| 258 | + zero?(x % 5).when("Buzz") |
| 259 | + =>: x |
| 260 | +' | glj |
| 261 | +can't take value of a macro: #'glojure.core/doseq |
| 262 | +#'user/rng |
| 263 | +#'user/or? |
| 264 | +#'user/say |
| 265 | +unable to resolve symbol: x |
| 266 | +``` |
| 267 | + |
| 268 | +It doesn't like us renaming `doseq` to `each`. |
| 269 | + |
| 270 | +!!! note |
| 271 | + I tried for quite a while to get this to work. |
| 272 | + That part's not in the cards for today. |
| 273 | + We'll just use `doseq` for now. |
| 274 | + |
| 275 | + |
| 276 | +```bash |
| 277 | +$ ys -ce ' |
| 278 | +defn rng(a b): range(a b:inc) |
| 279 | +defn or?(a b): a:empty?.if(b a) |
| 280 | +say =: println |
| 281 | +
|
| 282 | +doseq x (1 .. 16): !:say |
| 283 | + or?: |
| 284 | + str: |
| 285 | + zero?(x % 3).when("Fizz") |
| 286 | + zero?(x % 5).when("Buzz") |
| 287 | + =>: x |
| 288 | +' | glj |
| 289 | +#'user/say |
| 290 | +#'user/rng |
| 291 | +#'user/or? |
| 292 | +1 |
| 293 | +2 |
| 294 | +Fizz |
| 295 | +4 |
| 296 | +Buzz |
| 297 | +Fizz |
| 298 | +7 |
| 299 | +8 |
| 300 | +Fizz |
| 301 | +Buzz |
| 302 | +11 |
| 303 | +Fizz |
| 304 | +13 |
| 305 | +14 |
| 306 | +FizzBuzz |
| 307 | +16 |
| 308 | +nil |
| 309 | +``` |
| 310 | + |
| 311 | +It works! |
| 312 | + |
| 313 | +Just like it did at the start of the blog post. :smile: |
| 314 | + |
| 315 | +We know why it prints `nil` at the end. |
| 316 | +The first 3 lines (`#'user/say` etc) are just the return values of the functions |
| 317 | +we defined. |
| 318 | + |
| 319 | + |
| 320 | +## Conclusion |
| 321 | + |
| 322 | +I'm impressed with how well Glojure works even though it's still in its early |
| 323 | +days. |
| 324 | + |
| 325 | +It feels very promising and I'm definitely going to push harder on getting it to |
| 326 | +be a runtime option for YS! |
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